Curse

farkas · May 15, 2005, 01:19 PM // 13:19

I just passed from Lvl 9 to 10 with my Ranger/Necro and I did not get any attribute points. Prior to leveling up, I re assigned a few attribute points to better benefit from curses skills etc... and used about 6 "buy back points" so that I was at 18/24.

Now that I am level 10, I do not have those points you get when you level up, I just have 1 point left over from my re-arrangements that I did PRIOr to the levelling.

Any ideas or I should take it up with NCSOFT support ?

shanksk8 · May 15, 2005, 02:32 PM // 14:32

aight ill break it down for ya

I believe they should raise the cap with each expansion
BUT instead of the whole lvl 1-15 or whatnot in an arena they should have a more distinguished set going up by 5 or so like lions arch, lvl 15-20 only and so on. that would make it be a no noob gangbang world.

Rasputan · May 15, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

weekends only until retail release than 24/7

you know when the release is? I also just joined today and I haven't read up much on GW.

Sath · May 16, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

If you ask me these "david and goliath" situations are hard to prevent, even in this game. And that will be more clear in the coming months.
The level 20 cap does seem promising in preventing the campers/greifers. But some say there is a level playing feild for all level 20s seems like a bit of a fallacy to me. It also seems a bit off that you don't need to spend time playing this game to do good. And that its based totally on skill.

First you gain skill points past level 20, so over time you will have a level 20 with ALOT of options and skills. Than a person just getting to lvl 20 would not have, thus giving him an advantage..and how did he get those skills past lvl 20?..Spending time playing the game =P

Second the items, not every lvl 20 is going to have the same items, some will have gear that has been dropped from heaven..others won't. Something like this makes a huge difference in strength that goes beyond what your lvl indicates. How do you get good items? spending time playing the game =P..in most cases (shakes his fist at ebay).

Third, the expansions. From reading the site we pay for the expansion for content, and I think thats awesome, I would gladly pay. But what if you compare a player that has all these expansions to a player that does not? I mean new items, skills and others that some players won't have acess to giving a huge advantage.

Just looking at the lvl 20 cap its easy to think this game is based on skill alone, but the fact remains, its an rpg, and as such you gotta spend time playing it to get better. A first person shooter, or an RTS is a decent example of a game that doesn't require you spending alot of time, they are based on skill alone.
Don't get me wrong this is a great game, and I am loving the lvl 20 cap as much as you guys, I just don't see how you come to these conclusions that every lvl 20 will be the same, plus not needing to spend loads of time to play =/.

Fixed my grammer somewhat >.>

The Punisher · May 19, 2005, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I am at level cap (20) but I only have 170 attribute points. Can anyone tell me why?

ba22a · May 19, 2005, 08:28 AM // 08:28

The main problem is about the requests is that your trying to turn GW into the same kind of MMO games that have been around a while. Including races would vary the looks of characters and therefore allow more individualism though i dont feel that they should have additional attributes as that is going along the same point i am making.
I play the game occasionally and im still on the learning curve but im loving it all the same. The only thing i would ask for is a slightly bigger skills bar (+2 more woluld help) iif you want big lvl caps and better stat configuration then play something like Ragnarok. your offered a free service to play a game with so many people around the world, enjoy the experience and not manipulate it.

shinseikaze · May 19, 2005, 11:13 AM // 11:13

In my opinion they should raise the level cap to say 50 or whatever in the P vs E......but in P vs P drop everyones level to 20...........for the people who hasn't reached 20 yet they shouldn't be allowed to enter P vs P

Lymix · May 19, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by shinseikaze

.....for the people who hasn't reached 20 yet they shouldn't be allowed to enter P vs P

This is an interesting idea, but it's one of the things that turned people off from games like Lineage II -- You couldn't really 'play' the game unless you put in hours and hours of level grinding to get your character up to a competitive level.

Loviatar · May 19, 2005, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by The Punisher

I am at level cap (20) but I only have 170 attribute points. Can anyone tell me why?

there are 2 additional hard qusts worth 15 each

dont worry as you did not accidently pass over them

Loviatar · May 19, 2005, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by shinseikaze

In my opinion they should raise the level cap to say 50 or whatever in the P vs E......but in P vs P drop everyones level to 20...........for the people who hasn't reached 20 yet they shouldn't be allowed to enter P vs P

it is for all of us not just the neet grinding eleete

here is why it stays from GW itself

Guild Wars, in contrast, is based around your skill as a player. Our maximum level is twenty and you hit that very quickly, after about 20-30 hours of play. ,We call that 'The Point of Ascension'. Almost all of the content in the game and in the future Chapters is only available to Ascended characters, which means we don't have to worry about providing different levels of content. All the good stuff will be available to everyone. It's not our intent to force people onto the levelling up treadmill, so the level cap in Guild Wars is almost meaningless.

shinseikaze · May 20, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33

But its very easy to get to level 20.........therefore it would not disadvantage casual gamers

Loviatar · May 20, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by shinseikaze

But its very easy to get to level 20.........therefore it would not disadvantage casual gamers

but level 50 as suggested would be a grind as well as much more expensive as content for all those extra levels would have to be made

note that it is made easy on purpose and most of the game is set at that level

if you dont think level 20 content is challengeing check out the comments that say to make it easier

Janzku · May 20, 2005, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Why not add 3rd mode along rpg mode and pvp mode which u can choose when u create character. This 3rd mode could be advanced mode with high level cap for advanced and power gamers. Now this game is way too short in a hands of powergamer. As it is now i would call it a lazy mans mmorpg as everything is offered you right away and you don't have to work to get it much at all.

rook818 · May 21, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

I'd love to see the cap raised in an expansion, but not too much and I don't want to see the majority of the focus of the expansion to be post 20 content. This is the biggest problem with raising the cap...if it's raised to 40 then most of the expansion content has to be 20-40. I'd rather see a more moderate cap increase and new content spread out accross all the levels.

Feran · May 21, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Okay, someone needs to change this thread to:

LETS DEBATE THE SAME TOPICS AND ARGUMENTS OVER AND OVER FOR 16 PAGES FOR 400 POSTS

What would be really helpful is if someone compiled all the major points into a single post and deleted everything else.

I didn't come in this thread for a debate, and I'm tired of ****y people posting in this thread to state their glorifying opinion that's been stated and re-stated fifty times over, calling other people "idiots" or "assholes" or "bastards" god, don't you have anything better to do with your time?

400 posts of garbage!

I just wanted to know... how often do you get skill points after you level up?

That question has not been asked once this entire thread. And if it has I was speed-reading and missed it, but, dang...

Yeah, so, I am anxious to throw points into my skills but after I hit level 20 I don't know how often I'll get more points and stuff. Does anyone know how often you get them? With what proportion to experience? And other such things?

Thanks for any answer, and I hope my post doesn't get drowned out in the midst of all the debating and people who don't bother to read the thread and re-state what's already been stated a million times = ="

nub · May 21, 2005, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Why not add 3rd mode along rpg mode and pvp mode which u can choose when u create character. This 3rd mode could be advanced mode with high level cap for advanced and power gamers. Now this game is way too short in a hands of powergamer. As it is now i would call it a lazy mans mmorpg as everything is offered you right away and you don't have to work to get it much at all.

go back to wow. or something.

being good at guild wars requires practise, getting used to the skills combo, getting used to team work, etc. you're not gonna be good at it if you're just a lazy man playing gw as if it was a hack and slash.

why do you say the game's too short? people usually reach lv20 even before they reach the first quarter mark. and heck, it's *guild wars*. the pvp part of the game goes on 24/7. this way, the game's practically endless.

how is that short?

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Yeah, so, I am anxious to throw points into my skills but after I hit level 20 I don't know how often I'll get more points and stuff. Does anyone know how often you get them? With what proportion to experience? And other such things?

after lv20, you'll still have the level up exp bar. everytime you fill it, you "level up" and get a skill point, but your level stays at 20. that's about it.

shinseikaze · May 22, 2005, 11:31 AM // 11:31

whats the point of having an exp bar and that you still level up after level 20..............why don't the developers let you level up but you wont gain anything

Tavenlen · May 22, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by shinseikaze

whats the point of having an exp bar and that you still level up after level 20..............why don't the developers let you level up but you wont gain anything

Every time the experience bar fills up when you're level 20, you get a skill point.

Loviatar · May 22, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by shinseikaze

whats the point of having an exp bar and that you still level up after level 20..............why don't the developers let you level up but you wont gain anything

is being *neet elite look at my high level number even if it doesnt mean anything* really that important to you?

shinseikaze · May 23, 2005, 07:05 AM // 07:05

yep.........sure does.........it keeps u going knowing countless exp would mean for something besides a useless Skill Pt